08 - Germany GP (Nürburgring) - Incidents Reports

This was my whole race:



Also my race replay file:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pwfx67soz6ba7iv/08+-+Nurburgring+Race+Replay+%5BBrig%5D.Vcr

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Results here:
http://www.rfactor-racers.com/t1177-08-germany-gp-results#24970

Next event here:
http://www.rfactor-racers.com/t1178-09-austria-gp-a1-ring-event-thread#24971

Well I was tapped into Sexy in turn two but yielded the position back to him, this meant I was at the back. Both Black and Filz both spun me and didnt wait. I am not making an official complaint but wish people would play fair.

Yes, i spinned you and im going receive penalty for that

I thought we waited if we caused accidents, like a gentlemans rule no problem man it was a minimal touch and not on purpose I know that Black My problem was I had it happen twice in a few laps which effectively ruined my race.

i know that too, and ill recive penalty. Sory man, but then, it would be both race destroyed.. Mine was, cuz i got spun in lap 3 or 4. Anyway, im not complaining, but just want to drive better next time... Sry Dead again, it wont happen again.

Both you guys are fair racers and gentlemen, I was just angry at the time as you can understand. No need to apologise guys

HAHA you can see me wait for sexy in the vid You can also see it wasn't my fault

My video wasn't to blame this or that driver - that's up to the stewards IF there's anyone to blame.
I just wanted to show what happened to me: 2 incidents + mod bug
But I don't expect for penalties or anything, mainly because this wouldn't change what happened anyway...
Let's go to A1 Ring and hope for more luck...

Sexy Brigadeiro wrote:This was my whole race:

wow , thats really PQP , really bad luck Sex

Tell me about it, Alexinho...
  

I could be 4 to me stayed one lap but R Allen blue flag blue flag   

I'm sorry Denis, but if the incident you're referring too was coming onto the out straight, I'd only seen one blue flag and I pulled right onto the straight to let you both pass and was collected from behind. Imo I think both cars battling behind could have shown a little more patience in trying to pass.

I had an incident with blue flags too. Can't remember who it was - one of the new drivers - but they stayed on the racing line into T6 and braked very early, making me have to go onto the grass to avoid a collision. I lost about 3 seconds behind them which I think is a bit too much for passing a backmarker.

I don't particularly want the incident to be investigated, but with a few issues about blue flags, perhaps drivers should try to improve their spatial awareness.

Adrian wrote:I had an incident with blue flags too. Can't remember who it was - one of the new drivers - but they stayed on the racing line into T6 and braked very early, making me have to go onto the grass to avoid a collision. I lost about 3 seconds behind them which I think is a bit too much for passing a backmarker. 

That might have been me Adrian, but I'm not positive. I'm always gonna give you guys the inside path going into the turn except for S-turns of course. And if I'm giving up a spot I have to brake early as to not race you guys into the turn or over shoot the turn and end up off the track myself. 

So to anyone, line yourselves up to the inside of me not directly behind me so we do it as smooth as possible. Sorry if I slowed anyones lap down.

same happen to me Rory . please dont late when you have blue flag. you gight to me in that corners , when in fact you had to let me go.
please be careful next time.

Correct me if I'm wrong ... But doesn't a blue flag give you three corners to let a faster car through. Meaning the lapped car can pick somewhere safer than mid corner to allow a pass?

I'm not saying that lapped cars are right to be fighting into corners ... But I don't think a blue flag gives any right to barge past a slower car.

Just like with the real F1 it's as much the faster cars responsiblity to affect a safe pass.

when you don't  fight with another car to keep your place in race , i don't see any reason to stay  in 3 curbs to fight with a car who is 1 lap faster than you.
i think  LAT would be safe to observe that kinf of things , and to be more selective with new drivers.

Guys... It seems not everyone read the rules properly...

I mean, all of you are 'right' and 'wrong' at the same time...

There are sections of the rules talking specifically about blue flags, how/when to let the faster cars go and what NOT to do...

Please, read it all more carefully and be 'kind' to each other in the races, so we won't have any extra problems with this in the future.


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From the Rule Book - http://www.rfactor-racers.com/h27-season-5-rule-book

12. PENALTY SYSTEM - Penalties

"For incidents involving drivers on different laps or when rejoining the circuit (from off track or pits):
Illegal action not affecting other drivers - No Action, Warning or Drive Through
Causing loss of time/position - Stop and Go
Causing obvious damage - Disqualification
Typical incidents to be ruled under in this manner:
Avoidable collisions, forcing another driver off the track, dangerous or erratic driving, rejoining the track, pit box release, pit lane exit, ignoring blue flags."

15. Code of conduct

"Drivers must follow the Racing Code during all Events and also during Free Practice. The Racing Code is the rules of conduct, setting out responsible and respectful behaviour that all drivers should follow, to ensure that everyone has a fun and enjoyable experience.

This involves adopting a ‘simulation’ mindset - do not do anything in the game that you would not do in real life, and be aware of your limits as a driver - you are not racing alone, show care to your opponents.

Do not cause damage or danger to any other driver on the circuit or in the pit lane. Be respectful to other drivers in the server chat; do not try to offend or defame others, or use cursing or swearwords"

"Please respect faster drivers in all sessions, official or not. If you see a blue flag, please move over at the first available opportunity. Check your mirrors!"

16. Driving regulations

"1) General Driving

1.8 As soon as a car is caught by another car which is about to lap it during the race the driver must allow the faster driver past at the first available opportunity. If the driver who has been caught does not allow the faster driver past, waved blue flags will be shown to indicate that he must allow the following driver to overtake. Failure to respect blue flags will lead to a penalty.

1.9 Drivers must drive within the Racing Code, and show that they are in clear control of the vehicle, having done at least some basic driving with the car at the circuit."